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TOWN OF WEATHERSFIELD, VERMONT
PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, July 12, 2010 FINAL APPROVED

Introductions:

Commission members present were Bruce Cox, Peter Daniels, Michael Todd, Ed Williams, Gil Whittemore, Alan Hudson, Julia Lloyd Wright (ex-officio), and deForest Bearse (Land Use Administrator).

The audience members present were Debbie Graham, Keith Graham, Todd Hindinger, Graham Hunter, Bonnie Litchfield, Bradley Litchfield, and Peter Korbet.

II. Approval of Minutes: Meetings of June 28, 2010 and May 17, 2010

Ed Williams made a motion to approve the minutes of May 17, 2010 as corrected. Gil Whittemore seconded it. All were unanimous to approve the minutes as corrected.

Ed Williams made a motion to approve the minutes of June 28, 2010 as corrected. Alan Hudson seconded it. All were unanimous to approve the minutes. The comments from Peter Korbet in regards to self storage units will be referenced in the minutes.

III. Review Meeting Agenda - additions, corrections

There was none.

IV. Public Hearings:
A. Final Plat Reviews
(1) #06.2210 by David and Susan Hindinger, 855 Quarry Road
Bruce Cox opened the hearing at 7:20. Todd Hindinger, deForest Bearse, and Peter Korbet affirmed. deForest Bearse stated that there are only a few things that need to be addressed. The erosion control plan and the driveway plan are on LP02.
Todd Hindinger said that he looked up the legal definition of a plat and what a surveyor certified as a plat. He would like to have the plat be what the law says it is suppose to be. He has copies of what a plat is and what a surveyor is responsible for. The surveyor is responsible for showing the boundaries and should not show things like a silt fence, etc. He would like to show the boundaries on his property and what is currently developed on his property, not the engineer's information. People should not be asked to do what they cannot do. Some of the Commission members agreed with Todd Hindinger's comments.
Peter Daniels stated that over the years the final plat has grown. It could be done the way mentioned as long as it references the other parts. deForest Bearse mentioned that the surveyor should only put on the plat what they are qualified to do.
deForest Bearse stated how she has not received a letter from the fire chief. Todd Hindinger asked the Commission not to require the fire department to do a letter. He gave the Commission a copy of the letter he sent to Ray Stapleton. He has not heard from him. The driveway is mostly flat, but goes up some. Ed Williams stated that he does not see a problem with the fire department being able to get within 100 feet.
Todd Hindinger stated that he does not know what load the bridge should be expected to hold since there are no load requirements written down anywhere. His preference is not to use a culvert since the stream will have water in it all year. The bridge is better since he will not have to dig into the stream right of way. The driveway will be according to the driveway specifications. He picked 75 feet for his driveway because it is his property and that is what he wants to do. Ed Williams stated that he would agree with Todd Hindinger. The Commission cannot enforce regulations that we do not have. It is something that the Commission should look at in the future.
Peter Korbet said that bridges with a wooden deck can hold only 16,000 pounds. At a Select Board meeting it was mentioned that the Town is building a bridge on Hidden Glen Road. In Springfield if the bridge is less than four feet, they use a culvert.
Gil Whittemore stated that it should say that the final bridge design is up to the land owner. The load requirement should happen at the time the permit is issued. Bruce Cox said that there needs to be referenced to sheet 2 and 3. The block should be filled out and referenced so the Commission knows that there are other sheets. Todd Hindinger stated that there are no boundary pins yet. He will have them set before the Commission signs the final plat.
Ed Williams made a motion to close the hearing at 8:10 PM and go into a deliberative session at the end of the meeting. Michael Todd seconded it. All were unanimous.

V. Discussions:
A. Bylaw/regulation
(1) Self Storage Facilities
deForest Bearse stated that the Select Board will ask for a continuation of this bylaw at their next meeting on July 15th. She has Barbara Ingalls and Debbie Grahams comments.
Ed Williams made a recommendation that there be no smoking signs within 50 feet posted. It is usually fenced in areas. The Commission would like 20% of gross floor area of buildings to be used for outside storage areas.
Peter Korbet said that yard sales happen mostly in residential areas. Peter Korbet mentioned that Dan Willey brought up at a previous meeting a concern as to why the Commission was regulating yard sales. Ed Williams stated that the Commission is doing this in part due to parking at the facility and to keep the traffic and parking down.
Graham Hunter mentioned that in 4.3.2F it states that 10,000 square feet is permitted and over 10,000 is a conditional use and wanted to know where the Commission had come up with their numbers. Gil Whittemore stated that the Commission came up with them from Graham Hunter's letter. Graham Hunter stated that in highway commercial zone light industrial is allowed, but limited to 10, 000 square feet. He was not thinking that it could be a larger amount. The Town Plan discusses highway commercial as a growth areas/employment.
Ed Williams stated that the Commission did that because someone might have a larger property and want to expand. The conditional use would stimulate growth. Allowing as a conditional use is prudent. Some people could say that 10, 000 is too big. Bruce Cox stated that it could be interpreted by a developer as a building with two floors with 10, 000 square feet each. The Commission decided that they would use the term gross floor area to cover that. Graham Hunter stated that the ZBA has turned down a conditional use applicant because it did not fit in with the character of the area.
Graham Hunter asked for clarification on this. Could someone have inside storage of 10,000 and outside storage of 2,000? The Commission said yes.
deForest Bearse said that the gap was too wide at the first Select Board hearing, so the Select Board thought it was best to continue. She will present the changes made at this meeting to the Select Board at their next meeting on July 15th.
Ed Williams made a motion at 8:55 PM to move into deliberative session. Michael Todd seconded it. All were unanimous.

(2) Agricultural Zoning (section 6.10.7)

VI. Public Comment:

There was none.

VII. Wrap-up: debrief issues addressed and input given

VIII. Set or reinforce the agenda, date, time, and place for the next meeting

IX. Adjournment:
Michael Todd made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:24 PM. Ed Williams seconded it. All were unanimous to adjourn.


Respectfully submitted,

Diana Day

 

 

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